"Well, yes I suppose there is some sort of strange logic in that Terry, and it's certainly the logic of the Stock Market led Art Scene that was all powerful through the late eighties and early part of this decade. And I think that maybe this is where the affection of amateurism is rooted."

"Like throwing a V-sign at the crowd when you score."

"Well possibly more pathetic than that. It's more a case of Total Affectation, or method acting, as someone once put it. Do you see, there appears to be a bunch of late twenty, early thirty somethings adopting the role of both teen-idol and teenager, spreading the rumour that they all live together on a housing estate in Homerton. Urban Guerrillas under the guise of naughty school kids letting down the tyres of the Establishment and showing their arses when they run away. It's the punk thing all over again. And it will become apparent all too soon that they are no more than the children of the prospering middle classes from nicer suburbs around the Capital."

The channel changed..."So, Penny, it's nice to meet you, can you tell us a little about the strangest alternative space you worked in?"

"My fucking head."